The World of Avlis

Brick · Post by **Brick** » Tue Jul 29, 2003 12:37 am

No, I'm not asking for aging to be implemented. But what are the average life expectancies for the various races on Avlis? I need to know whether or not it's viable for an old, one-foot-in-the-grave dwarf character to call all the spring-chicken elves 'youngling' or not.

Post by **Orleron** » Tue Jul 29, 2003 2:08 am

Elves - 600 to 800 yrs
Dwarves ~250 to 300 yrs
Humans ~60 to 80 yrs
Halflings ~60 to 80 yrs
Gnomes ~150 to 200 yrs
Half-elves - depends what the other half is, average the lifespans together
Half-orcs - same as helfs
Half-anything else - same as above half-thingies: exception is half-dryad. They live as long as their non-dryad parent.

Brick · Post by **Brick** » Tue Jul 29, 2003 2:12 am

Excellent, thanks

Vroshgrak · Post by **Vroshgrak** » Tue Jul 29, 2003 3:06 am

for half orcs, you list humans but you dont give the life span for orcs. assume an orc lives the same length of time as a human? or less?

Post by **Orleron** » Tue Jul 29, 2003 3:32 am

Orcs - 50 to 70 years

Sydney Losstarot · Post by **Sydney Losstarot** » Fri Sep 12, 2003 3:11 pm

Well now I have a really dumb question but what if the other half is not known? My charecter is a Half-Elf so the Elven part is known but the problem is that the other half isn't (at least not to my charecter)
The only thing that could tell his other half are his cat-like eyes, pitch-black eyes, cannibalistic tendensies and his ferocious and greedy nature. And maybe his affinity with the god Aarilax (he's a cleric you know)
I don't know with what race I can match these features...

Anganthyr · Post by **Anganthyr** » Fri Sep 12, 2003 3:21 pm

Hypotheticaly speaking....

what would you say of the age of this one...

Her father would be a Half-Demon and her mother Half-Celestial...
both their other halfs are human.

???

Anganthyr.

KinX · Post by **KinX** » Fri Sep 12, 2003 3:26 pm

Anganthyr wrote:Hypotheticaly speaking....

what would you say of the age of this one...

Her father would be a Half-Demon and her mother Half-Celestial...
both their other halfs are human.

???

Anganthyr.

not really sure, but i can tell you the life expectancy would be about 2 days max

Aradan Kir · Post by **Aradan Kir** » Fri Sep 12, 2003 3:36 pm

KinX wrote:
Anganthyr wrote:Hypotheticaly speaking....

what would you say of the age of this one...

Her father would be a Half-Demon and her mother Half-Celestial...
both their other halfs are human.

???

Anganthyr.
not really sure, but i can tell you the life expectancy would be about 2 days max

Aloro · Post by **Aloro** » Fri Sep 12, 2003 3:57 pm

Anganthyr wrote:Hypotheticaly speaking....

what would you say of the age of this one...

Her father would be a Half-Demon and her mother Half-Celestial...
both their other halfs are human.

???

Anganthyr.

I hope this is purely hypothetical. Such a character would be cheesing, and against Avlis policies.

- Aloro

Sydney Losstarot · Post by **Sydney Losstarot** » Fri Sep 12, 2003 5:44 pm

Well now I have a really dumb question but what if the other half is not known? My charecter is a Half-Elf so the Elven part is known but the problem is that the other half isn't (at least not to my charecter)
The only thing that could tell his other half are his cat-like eyes, pitch-black eyes, cannibalistic tendensies and his ferocious and greedy nature. And maybe his affinity with the god Aarilax (he's a cleric you know)
I don't know with what race I can match these features...

Sili · Post by **Sili** » Fri Sep 12, 2003 5:59 pm

Sydney Losstarot wrote:Well now I have a really dumb question but what if the other half is not known? My charecter is a Half-Elf so the Elven part is known but the problem is that the other half isn't (at least not to my charecter)
The only thing that could tell his other half are his cat-like eyes, pitch-black eyes, cannibalistic tendensies and his ferocious and greedy nature. And maybe his affinity with the god Aarilax (he's a cleric you know)
I don't know with what race I can match these features...

Half-elf always implies that the other half is human

Vichan Lyonsen · Post by **Vichan Lyonsen** » Fri Sep 12, 2003 5:59 pm

Sydney Losstarot wrote:
I don't know with what race I can match these features...

To avoid the possibilities of cheesing (against avlis policy) why not just leave it at unknown? It would seem to me that could lead to more interesting character possibilities than any other option....I dont know of any races native to Avlis that have all the features you describe.

Perhaps his other half is human, but because of his odd eyes he was outcast from that human community - this required him to live a mean and violent life...(hence his ferocious tendancy), this type of life certainly wouldnt lead to great wealth (this might explain his greed and desire to hold things close to him and make them his)...you get the point...create a story around the character...you dont need some groovy race have those features......

Anganthyr · Post by **Anganthyr** » Fri Sep 12, 2003 7:04 pm

There is all this talk about Scorcerer bloodlines...

Dragon, Celestial or Demon blood should run in there veins.

That would imply that one of their ancestors would have been one of those...

And if one has for instance a bitt of demon in their blood...
Would it not be hard to say what age she/he would become?

Anganthyr

Drakuul · Post by **Drakuul** » Fri Sep 12, 2003 7:14 pm

Well, presumably you could take Half-elf and place into Sub-Races bit "Half elf, Half Orc"

You wouldn't have any extra abilities, but you could have a slightly odd description and maybe a fetish for eating halflings occasionally.

Aradan Kir · Post by **Aradan Kir** » Fri Sep 12, 2003 8:10 pm

Sydney Losstarot wrote:Well now I have a really dumb question but what if the other half is not known? My charecter is a Half-Elf so the Elven part is known but the problem is that the other half isn't (at least not to my charecter)
The only thing that could tell his other half are his cat-like eyes, pitch-black eyes, cannibalistic tendensies and his ferocious and greedy nature. And maybe his affinity with the god Aarilax (he's a cleric you know)
I don't know with what race I can match these features...

Isn't there a race called a Wemic, which is kindof a lion/man thing? You could be half this, half Elf? It would explain the eyes .... and perhaps the taste for flesh.

I could be talking arse though - and the DM's may not like it. Worth asking about though

Sydney Losstarot · Post by **Sydney Losstarot** » Fri Sep 12, 2003 11:33 pm

Sili said that Half-Elf always implies that the other half is Human but I dare to disagree. When I made the charecter I wanted it to have Elven blood in it but not be pureblood Elf so the most logical choice was Half-Elf. The name itself even says it one Half is Elven but the other Half is open for discussion. But maybe its better to leave it on unknown but I'm still open for suggestions because I want something to determine how old my character can get.

Vergilius · Post by **Vergilius** » Sat Sep 13, 2003 1:02 am

Sydney Losstarot wrote:Sili said that Half-Elf always implies that the other half is Human but I dare to disagree. When I made the charecter I wanted it to have Elven blood in it but not be pureblood Elf so the most logical choice was Half-Elf. The name itself even says it one Half is Elven but the other Half is open for discussion. But maybe its better to leave it on unknown but I'm still open for suggestions because I want something to determine how old my character can get.

Sili merely stated the explanation we find in the DND PNP handbooks and the NWN manual. Its part of the racial definition that a half-elf is also half-human.

Sydney Losstarot · Post by **Sydney Losstarot** » Sat Sep 13, 2003 10:21 am

Yeah man but don't you see my problem I had no choice but to pick Half-Elf if I wanted it to have Elven blood but I didn't intend on him having any Human blood. (He barely even as a human side let alone human blood in him but his Elven blood he cannot deny.)

Pharik · Post by **Pharik** » Sat Sep 13, 2003 10:50 am

Quote about sorcerers:

Dragon, Celestial or Demon blood should run in there veins

Again, the players handbook quotes that the dragonkin theory *may* be true as dragons are capable of taking human form - though why they would want to procreate in this form is anyones guess - this is likely an old wives tale.

In many fantasy books there are persons who have innate magic, most notably Robert Jordans WoT series which is totally based on this concept. But in other books too *wilders* exist and while Im sure some have attributed it to the dragonkin theory none that I have read do.

Jordicus · Post by **Jordicus** » Sat Sep 13, 2003 5:22 pm

Sydney Losstarot wrote:Yeah man but don't you see my problem I had no choice but to pick Half-Elf if I wanted it to have Elven blood but I didn't intend on him having any Human blood. (He barely even as a human side let alone human blood in him but his Elven blood he cannot deny.)

we have a specific set of races that are availble for play in Avlis.

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Sydney Losstarot · Post by **Sydney Losstarot** » Sat Sep 13, 2003 7:48 pm

Now I'm gonna make it more complecated. My story (which I posted) and my story mention my characters cat-like eyes. But let's say that because I'm Half-Elf my parents MUST be human then I'll have one hell of a problem because I don't think there are many Humans or Elves with the eyes of cat.

Glocknal · Post by **Glocknal** » Sat Sep 13, 2003 7:59 pm

Sydney, I would read this before you decide on this cat person thingy yer wanting to play.

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Post by **Lycanthropy** » Sat Sep 13, 2003 8:03 pm

Bang! Post removed!

Sydney Losstarot · Post by **Sydney Losstarot** » Sat Sep 13, 2003 8:03 pm

I already read the damn thing and I'm not cheesing! I'm not giving my charecter any special abilitiy like seeing sonar or having the dex of a cat (hell no my dex is 10) plus I'm not trying to make it an illigal race that's why I wanted to know if there was a race to match it with the legal way
But if they so want it to be Half-Human I'll make him an annomaly, an outcast. Doesn't matter anyway he's still a mean bastard with cat-like eyes, teeth filed to sharp fangs and who eats people

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