After nearly 2 decades, the Avlis Sourcebook is here

Post by **Orleron** » Sat Nov 28, 2009 9:37 pm

If anyone has a moment, head over to NWVault and rate the news story, pls.

http://nwvault.ign.com/View.php?view=co ... il&id=2861

Grunt · Post by **Grunt** » Sat Nov 28, 2009 9:44 pm

The book is on my Christmas List

Buddha Wiki · Post by **Buddha** » Sat Nov 28, 2009 10:06 pm

Ninjar wrote:Purchased the hard copy and then after eight hours of work I came back and sat around for 20 minutes before finding out how impatient I am >>

Heh. Turns out I suck at waiting too, and I even had a draft word doc of it. Oh well, a draft, a pdf and a hard copy ensure that I'll always have one handy.

Now where did I put that dagger and my plane tickets...?

Dude -- thanks for the words in the front! I sure as hell wasn't expecting that...

Post by **Orleron** » Sun Nov 29, 2009 12:04 am

Buddha wrote:
Dude -- thanks for the words in the front! I sure as hell wasn't expecting that...

bah...only sorry we couldn't do more for you in return

Cushman · Post by **Cushman** » Tue Dec 01, 2009 8:38 pm

In the mail! w00t! Can't wait!

Post by **Nighthawk4** » Tue Dec 01, 2009 10:05 pm

Reading mine now.

One small point - I can't find any mention of Avariel. Did I miss them or are they not included?

Post by **Orleron** » Tue Dec 01, 2009 11:20 pm

Avariel are not a huge part of the pnp version. They are listed in the Complete Book of Elves, 2nd Edition.

Hope you all enjoy!

Please, if you can, take a minute and put up a review at paizo.com, and here:
http://www.enworld.org/forum/publishers ... r-rpg.html

Zar'roc · Post by **Zar'roc** » Wed Dec 02, 2009 3:27 pm

Orleron wrote:
Buddha wrote:
Dude -- thanks for the words in the front! I sure as hell wasn't expecting that...

bah...only sorry we couldn't do more for you in return

you could send him some of that cash from the sales

just a thought

Pathos Street · Post by **Pathos Street** » Wed Dec 02, 2009 3:48 pm

"Avariel" is also a trademark or copyright or something of Wizards of the Coast/Hasbro, since it's from the Forgotten Realms campaign setting.

Brayon · Post by **Brayon** » Wed Dec 02, 2009 4:21 pm

Pathos Street wrote:"Avariel" is also a trademark or copyright or something of Wizards of the Coast/Hasbro, since it's from the Forgotten Realms campaign setting.

Same reason behind the Vasharan were renamed to Adomkuro. Vasharans are in the Book of Vile Darkness, iirc.

Pathos Street · Post by **Pathos Street** » Wed Dec 02, 2009 4:37 pm

And wemics to aryhens, dracon to shaardan, etc.

I'd say if you want to play an avariel in an Avlis pnp campaign, nothing's keeping you from doing so. Use the same stats as an Avlissian elf, but then add non-functional wings. Or if you're DMing, you can make up any races or stats you want to. It's PnP!

Post by **Orleron** » Wed Dec 02, 2009 4:44 pm

Avariel are listed in the Complete Book of Elves, 2nd Ed.

They are not in the sourcebook because no god on Avlis actually created them, whereas for wemics, vasharan, etc., some god actually did.

Post by **Orleron** » Wed Dec 02, 2009 4:46 pm

Zar'roc wrote:
Orleron wrote:
Buddha wrote:
Dude -- thanks for the words in the front! I sure as hell wasn't expecting that...

bah...only sorry we couldn't do more for you in return
you could send him some of that cash from the sales just a thought

Sure, if you buy 150+ copies of the book so I can recoup the $4k I spent on making it, I'd be happy to after that.

Buddha Wiki · Post by **Buddha** » Wed Dec 02, 2009 6:26 pm

Orleron wrote:
Zar'roc wrote:
you could send him some of that cash from the sales just a thought

Sure, if you buy 150+ copies of the book so I can recoup the $4k I spent on making it, I'd be happy to after that.

Just to be clear, Orl did exactly as I wanted, plus some. I wanted him to use the artwork for free, no artwork credits required. He went an extra step and mentioned me in the book, which was completely unnecessary, ... but nice.

I have enough money. I work for satisfaction, and it's satisfying to see this book in print!

Pat Briams · Post by **Pat Briams** » Thu Dec 03, 2009 10:23 am

Bought the PDF. It's fabulicious! (Shush, spellchecker!)

But due to the file size, the website needs some time to process it before you can start downloading. So when it tells you to "Check back in a minute", it actually means ten...

Post by **Orleron** » Thu Dec 03, 2009 8:53 pm

LOL... awesome, well not awesome about the download time, sorry about that.

Could ya write a review at Paizo.com?

Post by **ninja** » Thu Dec 03, 2009 9:19 pm

purchased hardcopy.

Hell, I may by a few to give to fellow nerds.

Pat Briams · Post by **Pat Briams** » Thu Dec 03, 2009 10:49 pm

Orleron wrote: Could ya write a review at Paizo.com?

I suck at writing reviews... Spent an hour and only came up with 7 lines of text

At least it's showing up on front page now

They should set up a product image for the PDF. Attracts more customers in my experience.

Post by **Orleron** » Thu Dec 03, 2009 11:33 pm

Still, I really appreciate the reviews.

Also I added a product image. For some reason it didn't take, the first time. It takes a while to update too.

Pathos Street · Post by **Pathos Street** » Wed Dec 09, 2009 5:39 pm

I've received my hardcopy sourcebook. The quality of the book construction is fair, but nothing outstanding. Thinner pages than I'd expected. The printing is very clean and easy to read. Some of the art suffers from the digital printing, not true greyscale but rather dots. The front cover is gorgeous, but the back is mostly blank.

And, of course, the content is awesome and I can't wait to use the book to run a campaign!!

Post by **Orleron** » Wed Dec 09, 2009 6:20 pm

Pathos Street wrote:I've received my hardcopy sourcebook. The quality of the book construction is fair, but nothing outstanding. Thinner pages than I'd expected. The printing is very clean and easy to read. Some of the art suffers from the digital printing, not true greyscale but rather dots. The front cover is gorgeous, but the back is mostly blank.

And, of course, the content is awesome and I can't wait to use the book to run a campaign!!

Yeah, I hear that with lulu.com your geographical location can determine what quality you get. They have different printing companies around the world, and it depends which one you wind up with in your region.

Hamlet · Post by **Hamlet** » Tue Jan 05, 2010 10:48 am

While I am with Pathos Street as regards book body quality, etc., I deem that it is as good as it gets, especially for a fresh start with self-publishing. Oh, and:

30st Nov 2009 - Order placed!
14th Dec 2009 - Order shipped!
/cue 3 weeks of anguished anticipation/
05th Jan 2010 - I finally get it!

07th Jan 2010 - Braggin' rights to D&D 3.5 PnP group!
12th Jan 2010 - Braggin' rights to Warhammer PnP group!
+/- profit, etc.

plekszy_gladsz · Post by **plekszy_gladsz** » Tue Jan 05, 2010 12:03 pm

*quick peek* On my to order list for 2010. Starting PnP using Pathfinder so why not make use of my limited stay here in Avlis.

*waves to all old friends*

Moredo · Post by **Moredo** » Tue Jan 05, 2010 1:17 pm

I'm gonna get one of these too! Looking forward to it!

plekszy, you should log in! Lots of new Valokians around these days!

Post by **Orleron** » Tue Jan 05, 2010 4:32 pm

Hamlet wrote:While I am with Pathos Street as regards book body quality, etc., I deem that it is as good as it gets, especially for a fresh start with self-publishing. Oh, and:

30st Nov 2009 - Order placed!
14th Dec 2009 - Order shipped!
/cue 3 weeks of anguished anticipation/
05th Jan 2010 - I finally get it!
07th Jan 2010 - Braggin' rights to D&D 3.5 PnP group!
12th Jan 2010 - Braggin' rights to Warhammer PnP group!
+/- profit, etc.

Wow, that took a long time.

Sorry to hear that, but glad you have it now.

Enjoy.

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