Rogue's UMD.

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Rogue's UMD.

Post by Woody » Fri May 05, 2006 4:20 pm

Hello,
I was wondering how I could tell if my Rogue's UMD skill is high enough to use a certain magical device ?
I have a Wand of Summoning II and a UMD of 7. Is there something in the description of the Wand that would give me any indication if it's "useable" or not ?
Or perhaps a chart for reference ?

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Post by Sili » Fri May 05, 2006 4:24 pm

There isn't. Just close your eyes and try it......
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Post by Curois » Fri May 05, 2006 4:25 pm

Sili wrote:There isn't. Just close your eyes and try it......
Yep, you try and die.... or watch the magicks :D
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Post by PsiOmega » Fri May 05, 2006 4:33 pm

First you'll need to know the innate level of the spell, ranging from 0 to 9, which can be found either in the various NWN manuals or here http://www.avlis.org/wiki/index.php/Magic:Spell_List (might be a partial list though).

With UMD you'll need to add the spell level +25 if cast from a scroll or +20 if from a rod/wand/staff.

So to succesfully use your Wand of Summon II (I presume it casts Summon Creature II :P) you need to beat a DC of 20 (base DC for wands) + 2 (innate spell level) which means you need to roll at least 15 with an UMD of 7.

And don't go FOIG on me because it can also be found here: http://www.avlis.org/wiki/index.php/Mag ... gic_Device
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Post by Woody » Fri May 05, 2006 5:08 pm

Thanks Psi. :D
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Post by anodynes » Fri May 05, 2006 6:40 pm

You can see my post here as well: Skill Points
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Post by Arnimane » Fri May 05, 2006 6:47 pm

Check pg 178 of your orig NWN game manual for a nice chart on UMD. 8)
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Post by dhocott » Fri May 05, 2006 6:48 pm

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Post by Marleh » Fri May 05, 2006 6:55 pm

Those charts are not valid with the Avlis custom changes to UMD.
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Post by mortzestus » Fri May 05, 2006 11:07 pm

The information that can be found in either the NWN manuals or the Grimoire is correct. The only changes done to UMD are for purposes of using spells from scrolls, wands or staves (but not rods). DCs for this can be read in the wiki, as stated above.
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Post by Xandor Amakiir » Sat May 06, 2006 9:35 am

Never found anything i couldnt use so far, but my umd is sort of maxed all the time ;). Be carefull with srolls thoug, critical failure can have fun or painfull effects *grins*
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