Question about Lycantrophy

Sydney Losstarot · Post by **Sydney Losstarot** » Tue Nov 04, 2003 10:36 pm

Well I heared that Lycantrophy is back in, right? Well then I have a question:
Do all infected grow mad when in their Lycan form or do some remain sane?

Morbid Ridicule · Post by **Morbid Ridicule** » Tue Nov 04, 2003 11:20 pm

There is no scripted madness.... but feel free to roleplay it as you will.

Sydney Losstarot · Post by **Sydney Losstarot** » Tue Nov 04, 2003 11:57 pm

Excellent! If Syd get's it I'll RP it that he keeps his sanity. Would be mighty interesting to RP an evil bastard like him as a were-creature

DAnjal Veskandar Rai · Post by **DAnjal Veskandar Rai** » Wed Nov 05, 2003 8:15 am

Do always remember that lycanthropy is a disease. Each transformation comes with excruciating pain, so remaining in wereform is not something your char would like.

It's very unlikely he'd WANT to have the disease.

Sindol · Post by **Sindol** » Wed Nov 05, 2003 8:29 am

Some community opinions from the past:

viewtopic.php?p=52941&highlight=lycantrophy#52941

In PnP becoming wereform usually means you lose all ability for rational thought and become what you look like: a drooling, slavering monster. I say usually because there are some ways to control lycantrophy. Those are all not implemented in NWN though.

Possibly you could simulate trying to retain your personality and cognitive functions by making a will save for yourself. Failure: monster time. Succes: the reason remains. I don't quite know what the DC of the save should be, depends on what sort of infection you have and how dificult you want to make it on yourself.
This is just a suggestion, not a rule in any way. The Avlis team will not be enforcing this.

Personally I think D'Anjal is right: Lycantrophy is a disease, a very discomforting disease at that. It presents the risk of losing one's self for some time and does this through a very painful transformation. Only the most disturbed and masochistic individuals would welcome such, and we're talking 100% loony-bin basket cases here.

Dirk Cutlass · Post by **Dirk Cutlass** » Wed Nov 05, 2003 8:49 am

Plenty of opportunity to role-play when in your normal form too...

Excessive hair growth
Cravings for raw liver
Torn clothes

etc.

I like Sindol's idea of a will save to see whether you manage to keep your insanity.

keikobad · Post by **keikobad** » Wed Nov 05, 2003 8:54 am

Sindol wrote:Only the most disturbed and masochistic individuals would welcome such, and we're talking 100% loony-bin basket cases here.

Like, the entire Church of Maleki?

Aradan Kir · Post by **Aradan Kir** » Wed Nov 05, 2003 8:57 am

Dirk Cutlass wrote:Plenty of opportunity to role-play when in your normal form too...

Excessive hair growth
Cravings for raw liver
Torn clothes

Sydney's got those already though right!?

anyway .... anyone know if Paladins are immune to this (because they weren't the first time round)?

Titanium Dragon · Post by **Titanium Dragon** » Wed Nov 05, 2003 9:53 am

Lycanthropy is more a curse than a disease... but yeah, it would rather suck.

Sydney Losstarot · Post by **Sydney Losstarot** » Wed Nov 05, 2003 12:09 pm

Well I think that anyone who met Syd knows he's one sick bastard

I like the idea of a will save depending on the infection so thx for that idea Sindol
I think the excruciating pain is something Syd could bare because he is as said quite disturbed. I think such an RP would be fun to have and Syd already has the makings of an excellent werecreature (cannibalistic tendencies, vicious personality and a real son of a bitch

)

Jeffie · Post by **Jeffie** » Wed Nov 05, 2003 12:53 pm

My take on the wererat curse:

at first you have no control as a wererat, but over time you begin to retain your memory/personality while in wererat form.

I read a forgetten realms book once by R.A. Salvatore where there was a wererat guild, they mostly enjoyed having the curse and were not raving mad beasts as rats, they used weapons. I don't know if that pertains the the avlis world but it seems plausible.

Sydney Losstarot · Post by **Sydney Losstarot** » Wed Nov 05, 2003 1:07 pm

That's another question! Can you become a werewolf/werecat too or are there only wererats that can infect you on avlis?

Sindol · Post by **Sindol** » Wed Nov 05, 2003 2:14 pm

There are werewolves and werecats, but I don't know if they can infect others with the curse as well.

Mothandric · Post by **Mothandric** » Wed Nov 05, 2003 2:19 pm

Both werewolves and werecats can give the curse, I've seen a PC werewolf once and another PC has mentioned turning into a werecat mid-fight.

Or at least I think I saw them...

Dirk Cutlass · Post by **Dirk Cutlass** » Wed Nov 05, 2003 2:35 pm

I'm waiting for when they bring in were-bats or were-badgers.. now they would be fierce! *squeak*

Mothandric · Post by **Mothandric** » Wed Nov 05, 2003 4:37 pm

Talking of ridiculous transformations, I remember that in the 1st or 2nd edition 'deities and demigods' or 'legends and lore' (whatever) there was a hero in the north american mythos with a magical cloak that allowed him at will to turn into...

wait for it...

A HALIBUT!

And no I haven't invented this, I still remember the blank looks on the faces of our PnP group while we tried to visualise a villian using this item in front of a party of PCs....

keikobad · Post by **keikobad** » Wed Nov 05, 2003 6:24 pm

Mothandric wrote:Talking of ridiculous transformations, I remember that in the 1st or 2nd edition 'deities and demigods' or 'legends and lore' (whatever) there was a hero in the north american mythos with a magical cloak that allowed him at will to turn into...

wait for it...

A HALIBUT!

And no I haven't invented this, I still remember the blank looks on the faces of our PnP group while we tried to visualise a villian using this item in front of a party of PCs....

Would make a great guild item for Forian's Confounders. Maybe a sword that can cover an area with fish?

Sydney Losstarot · Post by **Sydney Losstarot** » Mon Nov 10, 2003 3:29 pm

Well I got myself infected so now I'm a werecat

Too bad you can't use items or anything but I still think it's cool

Sydney Losstarot · Post by **Sydney Losstarot** » Wed Dec 24, 2003 2:54 pm

Once again I rack up the Lycanthropy thing

Does the Fortitude Save you have to make to negate the change increase the longer you have the affliction or not?

kombinat · Post by **kombinat** » Wed Dec 24, 2003 4:40 pm

Speaking as a long-term afflictee...

No, it doesn't seem to change.

Sydney Losstarot · Post by **Sydney Losstarot** » Wed Dec 24, 2003 5:12 pm

Yeah I'm also a long term Lycan but I keep getting cured by them do-gooders so I can't say I have the affliction a long time in a row

Gairus · Post by **Gairus** » Thu Dec 25, 2003 3:14 am

Mothandric wrote:Talking of ridiculous transformations, I remember that in the 1st or 2nd edition 'deities and demigods' or 'legends and lore' (whatever) there was a hero in the north american mythos with a magical cloak that allowed him at will to turn into...

wait for it...

A HALIBUT!

And no I haven't invented this, I still remember the blank looks on the faces of our PnP group while we tried to visualise a villian using this item in front of a party of PCs....

[hijack]
This made my mind go off on a tangent to silly D&D stuff:
I'm sure i've read a reference somewhere to an old D&D sourcebook with an evil demonic vending machine...

[/hijack]

Titanium Dragon · Post by **Titanium Dragon** » Thu Dec 25, 2003 6:15 am

Mothandric wrote:Talking of ridiculous transformations, I remember that in the 1st or 2nd edition 'deities and demigods' or 'legends and lore' (whatever) there was a hero in the north american mythos with a magical cloak that allowed him at will to turn into...

wait for it...

A HALIBUT!

And no I haven't invented this, I still remember the blank looks on the faces of our PnP group while we tried to visualise a villian using this item in front of a party of PCs....

*flop flop*

kombinat · Post by **kombinat** » Thu Dec 25, 2003 9:11 am

Sydney Losstarot wrote: Do all infected grow mad when in their Lycan form or do some remain sane?

It'd be interesting if you had to make a will save or suffer the Confusion effect, and have that decrease the longer time you spent in were form.. and have the Fortitude save increase with time... represents getting more control over yourself in were form, but having your morphic resonance adjusting to the new shape..

Spell Singer · Post by **Spell Singer** » Sat Jan 03, 2004 6:52 pm

While in the were form you have the intellegence of an animal under blood lust. So the question of sanity does not come into it.

To retain some control over this would require a will save on the order of 30..in the case of Sydney since he has no traits which oppose the animals that would be about a will save of 35.

A were creature has control...but in that case it is natural for them to change...but some one infected by lycanthropy is a horse of a different colour.

My $0.02 on this anyway.

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