Is there a certain race that aren't enough of and unbalances

Enverex · Post by **Enverex** » Mon Aug 30, 2004 7:31 pm

You think Wemics are overpowered? You obviously haven't seen the Dracons stats. Now THAT is overpowered to the point it just isn't funny.

Slade_brimstone · Post by **Slade_brimstone** » Wed Sep 01, 2004 1:22 pm

Feats:
Alertness
SkillFocus-Hide
SkillAffinity-Move Silently
SkillAffinity-Listen
SkillAffinity-Spot

Special Abilities:
Natural AC bonus

ok so insteed of choosing a feat they get alerness chosin for them..

i still say this way over powering

but hay i aint a programer or anything here

but if i was they would at most only get +4 to str and even then lose alertness

but hay .. thats my 2 cent .. and as ive found out years ago .. my two cent is heardly worth two cent to other people

Edit:

Enverex wrote:You think Wemics are overpowered? You obviously haven't seen the Dracons stats. Now THAT is overpowered to the point it just isn't funny.

no i aint seen them .. care to post them so i can look at them or point me in the right direction

Sinbadsam · Post by **Sinbadsam** » Wed Sep 01, 2004 1:34 pm

Well on Wemics you forgot that they can use a normaly two handed weapon in one hands and use a tower shield at the same time.

A properly configured wemic character can have most impressive stats and ablities.

Yes Devastating Critical is nice but Improved Knockdown is even more so. I am on my way to have both.

KinX · Post by **KinX** » Wed Sep 01, 2004 2:46 pm

Gairus wrote:/me points out that pure orcs have +3 strength and +1 int and don't have those ECL levels.

Dude... ECL is a penalty

You only get your con bonus in HP for those levels, miss the level 3 feat (and level 4 stat, but that's made up for by the obscene +7 thing) ... they are no substitue for real ones

Picture, if you will, spawning things that are a good two levels above what you can handle. (not a typo, since three beast levels still add up somewhat )

*knows for a fact his drow doesn't play like she started at level 3*

Powergamer's friend, no. Fast track to devastating critical, perhaps )

Theory aside, maybe it's time to roll one up to see just how obscene they really play. Teehee.

i can say the ECL 3 is a massive penalty. As has already been noted, the 3 beast levels count towards the characters total level, but it also counts towards your experience progression. By the time a wemic gets enough xp to get to lev 2 in his chosen class, a normal character would be level 5 already.

I find that people who say wemic's are great for powergamers haven't truly played one for an extended period of time.

Gairus · Post by **Gairus** » Wed Sep 01, 2004 2:51 pm

They're great for forcing their way to certain feats, due to Epic levels benefiting specialisation - they str specialised.

But certain feats <> powergaming itself