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Drangonari (Faerun) Elvish words

Post by Gairus » Wed Oct 29, 2003 2:49 am

I've got some background and personality for a new Drangonari character (aye, i've gotten the approval :D). I think i've almost got it ready to go after a crash course in hacking.

I have spent a few hours searching, and cannot find anything available to help me online... I am after some basic words in Faerun Elvish. I understand that the Drangonari language comes from Angadar(duh), and that he was from Toril.

To be fair, the right thing to do to learn the language would be go buying books for this one purpose but... it would be enough to get by and add lots of character, to have the basic stuff like:
Hello, Goodbye, pleased to meet you, lovely weather we're having.

I'd love the translations of the Sereg titles too, but I doub't you'll let that through without personal research ;)

I have no forgotten realm sourcebooks... and no intention of buying them for lack of phsyical people to play D&D with. So if I get no luck here, i'll just make do with *says X in drangonari* emotes if it ever comes up. :(

Posting under "Comments and Questions on World Information" instead of general discussion because i'll not have the first or last Drangonari on Avlis, and this would be useful for others also. :)
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Post by Scurvy_Platypus » Wed Oct 29, 2003 4:27 am

From this thread:

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http://grey-company.org/Language/
Silk wrote:Folks, both languages exist in Avlis. This is normal.

Orleron's Elvish is the native language of Avlisian Elves.

GreyCompany's (Tolkien) Elvish is the native language of the Dranganari Elves.

So, you're actually speaking Dranganari.
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Post by GreyLynx » Wed Oct 29, 2003 4:35 am

Actually, the Dragonari Elves speak Faerunian Elvish. I believe Silk pointed out later in that thread that he had the two (Tolkein and Faerunian Elvish) mixed up. Unfortunately, the Grey-Company website talks about Tolkein Elvish, so it's not going to really help for the Dragonari.
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Post by Jordicus » Wed Oct 29, 2003 4:57 am

try this:

http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/Semberholme/language.htm

but I think the Grey-Company's version of Elvish is different from Tolkien. In fact many Tolkien Elvish websites state right away that the Gre-Company version of Elvish does not correspond to Tolkien's work..[/quote]
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Post by Gairus » Thu Oct 30, 2003 12:31 am

The grey company faq says they took the Tolkien elvish, simplified it and increased the dictionary. Not canon elven but suits are purposes fine, basically :)

Perfect linky Jord. Wasn't sure i'd have any luck legally(and I don't pirate), since W$o$t$C could make money off it.

Now if only we had a nifty excel guru around here who could do a dictionary like the one on that page for Avlissian Elven :)

I'll write myself a list of words to memorize that V'heress might "slip" into unconciously, and basic social stuff. Beautiful.

He'll not get much chance to use the language (thankfully!), but the odd slip will be a nice touch.

PS. Damn. While it could provide some interesting RP if they get mentioned in front of V'heress, translating Sereg names was interesting but not terribly illuminating :cry:

EDIT: PPS. I did know about the first thread... but the focus is a bit different, since the poster was after the wrong language and got redirected to the Avlis stuff. I headed the opposite way, Avlis - Faerun :)
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Post by Gairus » Thu Nov 13, 2003 4:44 am

Such a nitpick it seems a subset of this.

Basic words: Check. If you know V'heress well, the few I use might get old, but they serve the purpose.

Something I can't find in Common or Drangonari. Tried several different searches. Does the Drangonari City/little realm have a name? Will be really embarrassing if anyone ever asks. I'd like to let V'heress give a straight answer and then be rude to people who don't know where i'm talking about. Works like a charm when talking about Drangonari and Drotid ;)
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Post by Agaremus Arailorn » Thu Nov 13, 2003 8:33 am

if you dont want to pay for source books then look them up on KAZAA, they have manuals for all types of PnP games ive got a few myself from it :)
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Post by Gairus » Fri Nov 14, 2003 2:13 pm

I'd rather not know something than be a common thief, thank you.

If you don't think these people deserve money for writing those sourcebooks then go play something else.

I could have so many more friends if I stopped expecting them to behave with dignity and BASIC ADULT MORALS.

Goody. Pet peeve alert, i'm about to push my own serious posts into R&R :roll:
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Post by Dralix » Mon Nov 17, 2003 12:01 am

Gairus wrote:Something I can't find in Common or Drangonari. Tried several different searches. Does the Drangonari City/little realm have a name?
Here's something I found ...
Orleron wrote:I've only ever made two cities in Drotid... neither of them were lizard men... one was Toostan, where the Avariel elves are... but I think it's safe to say that something withing the last 50 years wiped them out (because NWN doesn't let you have flying creatures). Then there was Grantir... where the Drangonari elves, Angadar's creation, live. They had some catastrophe within the last 50 years that eliminated their wings... again, because of NWN. But if you want to make the reason why, go ahead.
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Post by Agaremus Arailorn » Mon Nov 17, 2003 4:10 am

common theif your not stealing the books you are just looking at a few pages but if your stupid enough to pay for a book just for a few words be my guest its not my money, if your too pov to pay for the books then you and your morals can do without knowing elven :)
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Post by Arena Helerin » Mon Nov 17, 2003 8:41 am

Here's a question that's been running through my mind lately. I'm looking to have a half-nymph character who speaks the native language to fae as her primary and common secondary. Is there a fae language, or do the fae speak the language common to elves along with common? If so, is it possible that I could have a source so that I could use it in game or at least a few phrases that I can use?
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Post by Gairus » Tue Nov 18, 2003 8:29 am

Can't help you Arena :(

Thank you Dralix. Either the search engine can be quirky or I need to brush up on my boolean search techinique. Suppose I should read more thoroughly through Orl's campain notes :)

Oh, and:
Agaremus Arailorn wrote:if you dont want to pay for source books then look them up on KAZAA, they have manuals for all types of PnP games ive got a few myself from it :)
That's not a few words, that's entire works. The thief comment was a response to that. I think we'd best agree to disagree since i'm directly insulting you there and likely to get my thread nuked... thought I should clarify the insult :twisted:
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