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Blind / Deaf monsters
Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2005 11:39 pm
by Kuromimi505
Thinking about getting the blindness&deafness spell for my character.
I was wondering if anyone had any info on the effects in Neverwinter. Blindness gives a 50% miss chance I assume, but...
Does blindness affect the AI?
As in, if a monster is running to attack you, you blind him, does he stop and lose you? Or does he unerringly continue on to attack you?
Or, if you blind him before he ever sees you, does he just stand there until you enter his sight range? (right next to him?)
Thanks!
Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2005 1:01 am
by Georex
From what I've seen...if you attack a blinded monster, it will target you and engage in melee with the same penalties as if you had invisibility up. If you disengage for a moment and stand still, sometimes the baddies will lose a lock on you, but it seems kinda random.
Hope that helps!
Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2005 1:02 am
by Nob
For blindness....
If you're currently engaged in combat with it, the monster will follow you until you leave it's Line of Sight.
This doesn't matter even if you nail them out of invis, they'll target you anyway and follow you until you either go invis yourself or duck out of sight around a corner.
Once you do, they'll go back to their loitering point and just stand there until you go back and engage them.
Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2005 10:50 pm
by Midknight
As in, if a monster is running to attack you, you blind him, does he stop and lose you? Or does he unerringly continue on to attack you?
Yes, it can, but often they can reaqquire a lock through use of other senses, i.e. making a listen check. Note that a blind character treats all targets as having 50% concealment, so even if it does continue attacking you it won't connect as much.
Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 7:35 am
by Lauriel Senansha
What does deafness do ?
(Without the blindness I mean - thinking Thunderstones here).
Lauriel
Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 7:40 am
by Sathsarrion
Lauriel Senansha wrote:What does deafness do ?
(Without the blindness I mean - thinking Thunderstones here).
Lauriel
auto failure on listen checks, and 20% arcane spell filure
Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2005 2:21 am
by Midknight
Hit 'em with both, and you should be undetectable... don't think blindsense or other forms of detection are implemented. On another note, does True Seeing counter blindness?
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 1:29 am
by downsystem
Well i got a ? does blindness concealment bonus from the darkness spell stack with invisibilities concealment bonus?
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 9:09 am
by NWDuneAuron
downsystem wrote:Well i got a ? does blindness concealment bonus from the darkness spell stack with invisibilities concealment bonus?
Concealment never stacks above 50%.
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 9:38 am
by loki70
Midknight wrote:Hit 'em with both, and you should be undetectable... don't think blindsense or other forms of detection are implemented. On another note, does True Seeing counter blindness?
It should, according to most sources, but from what I have seen it doesn't. Also, if you hit them with blindness/deafness, you can slam them with spells with an area of effect and they can't track you, so yeah, pretty useful.
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 11:20 am
by downsystem
thanks for the thoughts.
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 1:40 pm
by Dralix
downsystem wrote:Well i got a ? does blindness concealment bonus from the darkness spell stack with invisibilities concealment bonus?
It's my understanding that darkness is supposed to be only pierced by ultravision. Meaning that if the creature you're fighting doesn't have ultravision, it should not be able to hit you in magical darkness.
Although my experience is that either this isn't true, or there are a lot of creatures with ultravision.
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 3:41 pm
by mortzestus
NWDuneAuron wrote:downsystem wrote:Well i got a ? does blindness concealment bonus from the darkness spell stack with invisibilities concealment bonus?
Concealment never stacks above 50%.
Concealment never stacks, period.
