The World of Avlis

I think i am bugged but not sure... My character Osric Kratos( gamespy ID is DoomsDay1000) duel weilds rapiers and is a ranger that wears robes and rangers get a feat called duel wield (when wearing light armor i get all benefits of Ambidexterity and Two-Weapon Fighting)
and i should get a -4/-4 penatly to AB if the weapon is not a light weapon. If its a light weapon then i should get a -2/-2 penatly. When i have Osric duel wield rapiers ( i think they are light weapons) he gets a -4/-4 penatly instead of a -2/-2. I think hes bugged or the rapiers are not light weapons i am not sure but i remember getting a -2/-2 when i first started playing him and now i am getting a -4/-4. Can someone get back to me on this. thanks

Rapiers are too big for the off-hand. Go down a weapon size, and it will work. The word "light" for the off hand is misleading... I fell for that too once. It really has to do with the weapons size. Try a short sword, dagger, kukuri etc.

Fael's got it spot on,


Rapier

rapiers are light for the purposes of weapon finesse, if not offhandedness.

Heh heh! I originally PM'd this because it was Ask The Team.... but hey, now I can post (although its already all been said, so I'm just showing off now).

Subject: Duel weilding rapiers

DoomsDay1000 wrote:I think i am bugged but not sure... My character Osric Kratos( gamespy ID is DoomsDay1000) duel weilds rapiers and is a ranger that wears robes and rangers get a feat called duel wield (when wearing light armor i get all benefits of Ambidexterity and Two-Weapon Fighting)
and i should get a -4/-4 penatly to AB if the weapon is not a light weapon. If its a light weapon then i should get a -2/-2 penatly. When i have Osric duel wield rapiers ( i think they are light weapons) he gets a -4/-4 penatly instead of a -2/-2. I think hes bugged or the rapiers are not light weapons i am not sure but i remember getting a -2/-2 when i first started playing him and now i am getting a -4/-4. Can someone get back to me on this. thanks

Couldn't answer because you posted in "Ask The Team".

Fistly, the terminology is small/medium/large. Rapiers are medium weapons same as a long-sword. Assuming you are medium-sized (e.g. human, elf, dwarf) then the -4/-4 penalty is correct. You'd have to use short-swords or smaller to get the -2/-2.

The only difference with rapiers is that they are finessable, meaning that if you have the Finesse feat then you use DEX bonus for AB. I think rapiers are the only finessable medium weapon, that is why they are special.

ok thanks... was just trying to clear up something when i remembered back in the day i got a -2 and not a -4 unless my memory is wrong.. owell thanks guys

My Main uses dual weilded Rapiers always has done. I guess I liked the novelty factor, even though you get penalised for it!
Don't let the numbers put you off if its what you like doing! Style comes before Stats

Lilith wrote:My Main uses dual weilded Rapiers always has done. I guess I liked the novelty factor, even though you get penalised for it!
Don't let the numbers put you off if its what you like doing! Style comes before Stats

QFT

Dual rapiers with great cleave or whirlwind attack is a blast. Just looks good.

lanrik wrote:Dual rapiers with great cleave or whirlwind attack is a blast. Just looks good.

Dev crit, it's all about the dev crit...oh, and keen, and WM with seven levels. And then have the DM spawn a ton of undead on you good times