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Are there any Clerical/Worshipper like Orders of Fegall like OoG?

If not anyone interested in creating one?

See this thread for more !

I am in game, but a devout follower of the Gnomefather.

I'll start placing more information on that deity here soon.

Gurky

If you are registered as a Cleric - part of the Group, that is, go here:

A thread in Avlis private Discussion: Clerics

I have gathered a lot of information on Fegall, but don't want to post it all as of yet - I can email that which I have to you.

Otherwise, we can meet IG and have a chat.

Also, check my journal for some IG stuff that I made up about Fegall - hopefully it's all acceptable.

Gurky

There is a Temple to Fegall in Deglos, when Gurky ventures there IG he'll probably write something in his journal about it.

According to the structure of Gnomish culture and the Church of Fegall, the Order... wouldn't exist per se.

The best I can guess is that the following happens:

The Guild of Springs has 100 members. One of the members is a Cleric of Fegall, a High Springmaster in service to the Gnomefather Through Whom all Springs must Pass for Verification.

Since each rank varies by guild, here one would see:

Springmaker.
High Springmaker.
Springmaster.
High Springmaster

These are all guesses, though ! I'm not the authority on Fegall and gnomish culture.

To suit that to what Gurky did at the farm, he'd be one of the following:

Oniongrower.
High Oniongrower.
Onionmaster.
High Onionmaster.

If that is too fine-grained, then Planter or Horticulturist could possibly replace "onion" in those terms.

Fegall wouldn't exactly have an "order" because "order" is not a word he's generally acquainted with. Gnomish society is fairly chaotic and splintered without large gatherings. Read up on Deglos for more information, and notice how the government structure there looks. It's pretty much the same way with Fegall. Though you could focus on a single craft and make a guild for that which follows Fegall.

Thanks Boss !

I read through that document that describes Deglos - didn't see the darned "more" link...!

If Sinbadsam checks this thread again - heya ! Here are some things I found in the document to help think about an answer to your question.

"Every trade imaginable has its own official national guild that concerns itself only with its own trade, and nothing else."

So an example of having a Guild of Experimentation on Onions does not seem too far-fetched ?

"...the gnomes tend to focus more on the "esoteric" crafts such as alchemy, astronomy, invention, and other sciences."

That's where the Experimentation comes in - a science.

"Usually, each town is run by one of the crafting guilds."

This guild would, for example, be the main guild of the town close to the farm that Gurky is from.

For your character - get a Craft that he can basically build his history around if he is a Cleric.

From the Deities page:

His (Fegall's) center of worship is located in the nation of Deglos, however the Church of Fegall does not form any strict cohesive unit to speak of.

A summary of how the Church works, and an example:

1. Clerics are often craftsmen
2. Knowledge should be passed along.
2a. There are no rules on how to do this.

2b.

Cleric A wants to learn how to make a Doorknob. He goes to the master Cleric B. Cleric C, D, E and F also want to know about the Doorknob, and eventually a small guild forms.

They make Doorknobs and even invent new types of Doorknobs ! Perhaps later, the guild will disband as half of them disagree about how to Polish the Doorknob. Perhaps two new guilds would form from that - who knows ? We're talking gnomes here !

I hope these suggestions help.

Sounds fine to me if you find DM support for it.

Orleron wrote:Fegall wouldn't exactly have an "order" because "order" is not a word he's generally acquainted with. Gnomish society is fairly chaotic and splintered without large gatherings. Read up on Deglos for more information, and notice how the government structure there looks. It's pretty much the same way with Fegall. Though you could focus on a single craft and make a guild for that which follows Fegall.

OK thanks Idea is correct, just the term I used for it was wrong.

So one could form a guild of metal shapers under the structure? of Worshipping Fegall?

As for my PC that is interested her wisdom is not even close to being a cleric with out massive major DM wisdom boosting, which she does not want any way.

Gurky

My pc that would be interested is a Wemic. But she does have some skill in some crafts. Why did she chose Fegall well the dwarvan God of Crafting NPC priests said she was too big or not a dwarf or gnome. Fegall's NPC Priest did not seem to have an issue with her size.

"So one could form a guild of metal shapers under the structure of Worshipping Fegall?"

Allright, your character wants to follow Fegall because through that deity, she can perfect her weapon and armorcrafting skills ?

If she does not intend to become a Cleric, why start a Holy Order ? She can revere Fegall and join the Avlis Armor and Arms Association, for example.

"Fegall's NPC Priest did not seem to have an issue with her size."

Well, of course not ! Deglosians are, after all, more cosmopolitan than their Galdosian cousins

Finally, if there is already a Metalworking Guild in Deglos, it should simply be discovered.

If not - the structure of the Church of Fegall means you can start your own guild, yes. But that would mean finding other followers of Fegall or PCs that haven't been able to join the AAAA and form your own guild as described in the previous post.

For now, Gurky is not following Weaponcrafting. Keep in touch, though, because that might happen soon!

Gurky_Bogglewig wrote:"So one could form a guild of metal shapers under the structure of Worshipping Fegall?"

Allright, your character wants to follow Fegall because through that deity, she can perfect her weapon and armorcrafting skills ?

If she does not intend to become a Cleric, why start a Holy Order ? She can revere Fegall and join the Avlis Armor and Arms Association, for example.

"Fegall's NPC Priest did not seem to have an issue with her size."

Well, of course not ! Deglosians are, after all, more cosmopolitan than their Galdosian cousins

Finally, if there is already a Metalworking Guild in Deglos, it should simply be discovered.

If not - the structure of the Church of Fegall means you can start your own guild, yes. But that would mean finding other followers of Fegall or PCs that haven't been able to join the AAAA and form your own guild as described in the previous post.

For now, Gurky is not following Weaponcrafting. Keep in touch, though, because that might happen soon!

She does not want to follow Fegall, she already does that. She has even had a priest of Fegall talk to Fegall to provide some answers to some questions she had.

To start a Holy Order one does not have to be a cleric, or I am wrong in this? If so then I have to find such a cleric.

FYI Breggiae Two Strikes, Mistress Blacksmith, Journeylioness Weaponsmith, Journeylioness Armorsmith, Former Quartermaster of Fulchair Hall in Dwarftrade of the AAAA. So she will not be going back to the AAAA ever. Jeweler, and Quartermaster of the AJA in Deglos.

Hmm I beileve we differ on your usage of the terms Metalworking and Shaping Metal. I feel that Metal Shaping is a higher form of the art of metal crafting.

Then she may look into the Metalworking guild in Deglos.